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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>今天去了深圳市民中心旁听了电商大讲堂，里面嘉宾的观点摘要如下：</p>
<p><strong>腾讯小马哥观点：</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/shenzhen-ec-forum/shenzhen-ec-forum-pony/" rel="attachment wp-att-735"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-735" title="深圳电商大讲堂-马化腾在演讲" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shenzhen-ec-forum-pony.jpg" alt="" width="546" height="409" /></a><br />
</strong></p>
<p>1、认为未来3年将由密集资本支撑电商企业发展</p>
<p>2、通过腾讯的开放平台，打开关系链和产业链，积极的引入服务商、合作伙伴</p>
<p>3、对社区的重视,例如Google虽然圈到信息，没像Facebook圈到人，所以新CEO上线会大力发展社区</p>
<p>4、Groupon团购的启事，团购早已有之，最近爆发，其最大原因也是互联网的特点——简单功能极致化，不要叠加功能</p>
<p>5、俄罗斯的DST投资风格：投行背景，工作很快、估值比较高、行动迅速，例如DST投资GROUPON，快速投资不控股</p>
<p><span id="more-727"></span></p>
<p><strong>金蝶Robert的观点：</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/shenzhen-ec-forum/shenzhen-ec-forum-robert/" rel="attachment wp-att-742"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-742" title="深圳电商大讲堂-徐少春在演讲" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shenzhen-ec-forum-robert.jpg" alt="" width="545" height="407" /></a><br />
</strong></p>
<p>1、过去有很多正确决策，有一个决策没有做对，当初没投资腾讯，转型过程中会更加重视互联网</p>
<p>2、苹果去年5月份市值超过微软，是个标志性事件，移动终端取代电脑PC端，意味着新的时代到来</p>
<p>3、友商网是目前提供在线服务市场率最高的云服务网站。注册拥有达到了15万家，续费率达到了95%</p>
<p>4、快递100的服务累计超过了3000万的查询。合作最多的快递公司EMS、申通、圆通等</p>
<p>5、<strong><a title="随手记iPhone客户端免费版" href="http://itunes.apple.com/cn/app/id386775424?mt=8" target="_blank">随手记 iPhone客户端</a></strong>，App Store 理财类第一名的 iPhone APP，现在下载量达到了60万，日活跃用户超过3万，人均日访问40分钟左右，<a title="金蝶理财网" href="http://www.feidee.com" target="_blank">随手记网站</a> 也可以记账。</p>
<p><strong>京东老刘的观点：</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/shenzhen-ec-forum/shenzhen-ec-forum-laoliu/" rel="attachment wp-att-743"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-743" title="深圳电商大讲堂-刘强东在演讲" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/shenzhen-ec-forum-laoliu.jpg" alt="" width="622" height="465" /></a><br />
</strong></p>
<p>1、B2C电商 重新设计系统是由于以往系统都是基于 B2B或 C2C，包括沃尔玛后台系统都是基于B2B的</p>
<p>2、电商行业是高技术加劳动密集型的、资本密集型，京东今年对研发的投入是1300人+4亿人民币</p>
<p>3、学习沃尔玛的低价策略，光打价格战不行，不打价格战万万不行</p>
<p>4、电商为什么可以发展？不是因为互联网，而是电子商务把交易成本降到了个位数</p>
<p>5、不管是沃尔玛、家乐福，还是国美、苏宁，运营成本超过10%，而当当是18%，京东是6%<br />
所以当当价格战是打不过京东，后面不敢继续打了</p>
<p>6、通过对商品浏览量、收藏率、访问时间的分析预计未来销量和采购决策</p>
<p><strong>关于深圳电商大讲堂的报道可以通过以下方式查阅：</strong></p>
<p>1、腾讯微博：  <a href="http://t.qq.com/k/%E7%94%B5%E5%95%86%E5%A4%A7%E8%AE%B2%E5%A0%82">http://t.qq.com/k/%E7%94%B5%E5%95%86%E5%A4%A7%E8%AE%B2%E5%A0%82</a></p>
<p>2、腾讯科技： <a href="http://tech.qq.com/zt2011/dsdjt/index.htm">http://tech.qq.com/zt2011/dsdjt/index.htm<br />
</a></p>
<p>本文首发地址来自阿石的日志：<a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/shenzhen-ec-forum/">http://www.ashnotes.com/shenzhen-ec-forum/</a>（转载请保留）</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[今天有幸参加了由 robin 柳焕斌组织的  Robin Club 深圳聚会，说是聚会，其实是行业热心人士的分享会。虽然是上交了150元大洋，虽然天公不作美去时淋雨回时淋雨，虽然这次分享会的主题是非阿石所涉猎的海外 B2C，但受着分享的互联网精神感召，我还是兴冲冲的参加的了，后来还发现比我还兴冲冲的 robin club 的铁杆粉丝、从河南安阳坐火车过来的Sally同学，可见这种精神的感召力是多么的深深。这次聚会上还偶遇到了在老兵群上认识的黄舟杨，他依然为游子礼品网殚精竭虑，由于之前的重商务而忽视了电子，用他的话说是一条腿快、一条腿慢，也参加这次聚会，希望获取一些网站营销的信息。 这次分享会由以下主题内容组成： 1 南京科泰周总的《外贸营销经验分享》 2 坏人杨溯的《海外 B2C 网站产品展示和搜索产品的设计》 3 乐思蜀王志炜的 《英文搜索引擎优化经验分享》 4 Tony 缪晨卿的《基于全球买家行为的 PPC 优化技巧》 5 Jay 谢晶的《电子邮件营销，赢在细节》 6 葛小飞的《欧洲的搜索营销机会和挑战》 7 Sidney宋星的《网站分析-电子商务的转化之钥 》 一看内容还是很丰富的，整整一天听下来，有些累。但我想最累的还是 robin 和各位演讲嘉宾。robin  对各会演讲主题实践的掌控，对互动环节的把握，让人印象深刻。现记录一下印象感觉较深、也是阿石较熟悉的三个主题，更多嘉宾演讲主题 PPT ，可以去 robin club官网 等待 robin 放出下载。 一、坏人杨溯的《海外 B2C 网站产品展示和搜索产品的设计》 坏人一上台就表示自己“鸭梨”很大，后来他用演讲事实证明”鸭梨”是可以逐渐变小的。他重点讲了两个方面，一是国外商品详细页的属性精细化；二是电子商务站内搜索的产品设计。通过点评 Amazon 、宝洁等公司的商品详细页的优点，得出商品详细页需要在基于商品的用户评论、对服务的承诺、对商品属性的合理安排、以及接入第三方分享平台来展开优化。特别还指出由于淘宝卖家对国内网购用户喜欢看内容丰富、页面高度超长的商品描述的熏陶（个人觉得可能还由于BBS传统论坛”盖楼”的习惯），其中一个slide将某淘宝卖家的商品详细页页面高度和苍井空小姐的身高做对比，都是1.5米左右，比喻形象令人为之拍案叫绝。对站内搜索的产品设计，坏人希望在完善搜索的分类、排序、筛选、关联等因素外，还希望能作出符合用户心理预期的搜索结果展示。 二、Jay 谢晶的《电子邮件营销，赢在细节》 首先要说明电子邮件是国外尤其是美国用户的第一大互联网应用，EDM 即电子邮件营销在国外发展的也很成熟，这是Jay的开场白。电子邮件营销由于其主动精准、一对多、内容的强相关性等特点，成为网站推广的一大利器。营销邮件根据其功能分为产品介绍类、促销类、事件营销类、召唤类等，并对不同的营销邮件分类形成不同的营销邮件原型设计 or 页面模板。群发营销邮件要考虑到 EDM <a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/robin-club-shenzhen-party/"> read more <span class="meta-nav">&#187;</span></a><table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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<p>今天有幸参加了由 robin 柳焕斌组织的 <a href="http://www.robinclub.org/events/shenzhen/index.html" target="_blank"> Robin Club 深圳聚会</a>，说是聚会，其实是行业热心人士的分享会。虽然是上交了150元大洋，虽然天公不作美去时淋雨回时淋雨，虽然这次分享会的主题是非阿石所涉猎的海外 B2C，但受着分享的互联网精神感召，我还是兴冲冲的参加的了，后来还发现比我还兴冲冲的 robin club 的铁杆粉丝、从河南安阳坐火车过来的Sally同学，可见这种精神的感召力是多么的深深。这次聚会上还偶遇到了在老兵群上认识的黄舟杨，他依然为游子礼品网殚精竭虑，由于之前的重商务而忽视了电子，用他的话说是一条腿快、一条腿慢，也参加这次聚会，希望获取一些网站营销的信息。</p>
<p>这次分享会由以下主题内容组成：</p>
<p>1 南京科泰周总的<a href="http://wenku.baidu.com/view/9b57716c1eb91a37f1115c10.html" target="_blank">《外贸营销经验分享》</a><br />
2 坏人杨溯的<a href="http://wenku.baidu.com/view/541a34c66137ee06eff91810.html" target="_blank">《海外 B2C 网站产品展示和搜索产品的设计》</a><br />
3 乐思蜀王志炜的 <a href="http://wenku.baidu.com/view/c5da9838376baf1ffc4fad13.html">《英文搜索引擎优化经验分享》</a><br />
4 Tony 缪晨卿的<a href="http://wenku.baidu.com/view/1c31d61ea76e58fafab003cc.html" target="_blank">《基于全球买家行为的 PPC 优化技巧》</a><br />
5 Jay 谢晶的<a href="http://www.bizark.cn/enclosures/Xie-Jing-Edm-win-in-the-details.ppt" target="_blank">《电子邮件营销，赢在细节》</a><br />
6 葛小飞的<a href="http://www.bizark.cn/enclosures/Ge-Xiaofei-for-the-European-market-of-search-engine-marketing-strategy.ppt" target="_blank">《欧洲的搜索营销机会和挑战》</a><br />
7 Sidney宋星的<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/sxwuda/ss-4352736" target="_blank">《网站分析-电子商务的转化之钥 》</a></p>
<p>一看内容还是很丰富的，整整一天听下来，有些累。但我想最累的还是 robin 和各位演讲嘉宾。robin  对各会演讲主题实践的掌控，对互动环节的把握，让人印象深刻。现记录一下印象感觉较深、也是阿石较熟悉的三个主题，更多嘉宾演讲主题 PPT ，可以去 <a href="http://www.robinclub.org/" target="_blank">robin club官网</a> 等待 robin 放出下载。</p>
<p><strong> 一、坏人杨溯的《海外 B2C 网站产品展示和搜索产品的设计》</strong></p>
<p><a title="坏人的博客" href="http://aboutue.com/blog/" target="_blank">坏人</a>一上台就表示自己“鸭梨”很大，后来他用演讲事实证明”鸭梨”是可以逐渐变小的。他重点讲了两个方面，一是国外商品详细页的属性精细化；二是电子商务站内搜索的产品设计。通过点评 Amazon 、宝洁等公司的商品详细页的优点，得出商品详细页需要在基于商品的用户评论、对服务的承诺、对商品属性的合理安排、以及接入第三方分享平台来展开优化。特别还指出由于淘宝卖家对国内网购用户喜欢看内容丰富、页面高度超长的商品描述的熏陶（个人觉得可能还由于BBS传统论坛”盖楼”的习惯），其中一个slide将某淘宝卖家的商品详细页页面高度和苍井空小姐的身高做对比，都是1.5米左右，比喻形象令人为之拍案叫绝。对站内搜索的产品设计，坏人希望在完善搜索的分类、排序、筛选、关联等因素外，还希望能作出符合用户心理预期的搜索结果展示。</p>
<p><strong>二、Jay 谢晶的《电子邮件营销，赢在细节》</strong></p>
<p>首先要说明电子邮件是国外尤其是美国用户的第一大互联网应用，EDM 即电子邮件营销在国外发展的也很成熟，这是Jay的开场白。电子邮件营销由于其主动精准、一对多、内容的强相关性等特点，成为网站推广的一大利器。营销邮件根据其功能分为产品介绍类、促销类、事件营销类、召唤类等，并对不同的营销邮件分类形成不同的营销邮件原型设计 or 页面模板。群发营销邮件要考虑到 EDM 的发送能力、客户对营销邮件投诉率、以及营销邮件的目标达成的相关分析等，另外也从 jay 口中也了解到目前垃圾邮件排名第一的国家是俄罗斯i，而五六年前这个国家是中国，十年前则是美国。</p>
<p><strong>三、Sidney宋星的《网站分析-电子商务的转化之钥 》</strong></p>
<p>和宋星在网上神交已久，他创办的<a href="http://www.chinawebanalytics.cn/" target="_blank">网站分析在中国</a> ，是中国网站分析届最知名的网站。这次看真人布道网站分析，收获良多.Sidney通过分享个人实操经验和工作案例，让我们了解到流量的性质，流量代表着用户行为，对流量来源的标记及用户行为路径的监控分析来优化流量，优化流量就是增加转化、提高订单金额的最佳实践。当然网站分析还有很多事情可做，例如页面元素的布局安排、页面间的结构、抓住交叉销售的机会、深挖内部搜索，Sidney给我们普及了网站分析对页面设计、网站营销的关键作用。儒雅的外表、对节奏把握、用语的诙谐，让这次压轴演讲掌声阵阵，最后的个名片取用大家蜂拥而至，这个“ call to action ”的转化率极高。</p>
<p>分享会结束之后，和 Sidney、robin 、舟扬等一行人来到地王旁边的丰滑餐厅打起了火锅。席间还认识 nono、杰坤、ben 等，大家人手一锅、海阔天空。了解到只要报销来回路费和住宿费， Sidney 表示乐意来深圳与我们交流，虽然深圳是个让他”纠结”的城市, <img src='http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> 。深圳地区有需要的企业or聚会达人可以周知了。吃完饭就道别了，也希望 robin 、Sidney 、Sally 们顺风顺水、一路平安。</p>
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		<title>5月8日深圳老兵群聚会</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[随着玉麟兄的振臂一呼，2010年深圳首次老兵群会开始了。今年是老兵群第一次聚会，第一次虽然来的比较晚，却也来的及时。来自深圳各区、甚至广州的老兵们陆续来到缪氏川菜车公庙泰然店，当我6点25来到时，老兵们早已经杀开两桌热谈起来。后来随着 “IT碰碰车三人行” Sunny哥、林校他们陆续驾到，总共有27人参加。三桌开饭，很川、很辣味。下面以人物加流水帐的形式描述这次聚会，人物以与阿石碰面顺序为准，也不完全是，其中点评如有误还望老兵们海涵。 老友篇 banly 哥还是那样深邃，带着一框眼镜，仿佛总能框到一番新天地 林校换了造型，准确的说留了络腮胡，浓密的长长的分布着，和重庆的 GJJ 的有的一比 sunny 哥依然海阔天空，听说是目前私募投资领域业绩最好、成长最快的投资经理。最近深耕游戏领域，投了成都汉森、上海索乐，上来就问我们玩爆过植物大战僵尸没？然后就晒一下战绩，PC 上俩次，iphone 天天玩，说不定投一个联机版的大战僵尸玩玩，豪气！ 秋水大侠更加苗条了，一问得知最近身体不是很好，我估计是思考的多、写的多了，劝她好好休息。她说阿石啊，我刚才差点把你卖了，咋？原来她临时客串了一下“猎头”，帮一家移动商街负责人李同学挖人，HOHO，打住，嘘~ 少炜最近搞外贸了，SEO  的那个项目听说是暂停了，和 cnbeta 的邹锐海夫妇聊得很来，一问得知也是搞外贸，难怪聊得那么投机，中场换位也没和少炜聊多少，亏！ 勇虎依然脱离不了校园产品，也算是对自己的目标一直坚持着，身陷橡果不可自拔。 朱海真是快闪，来的最迟、去的最快，老板加老公的角色确实不好当。 生日篇 吃饭到中途，才听玉麟说今天是岑锋生日，没来得及准备。幸好玉麟另有安排，在花店订了一大捧鲜花正儿八经的献给了岑锋，合影、留念，其他老兵们争相欢呼、拍手称赞，惹得缪氏川菜其他食客们意外又很惊奇的围观这两大男人“演出”的一场好戏。期待拍照的老兵们尽快上传分享，有图有真相。 老夏篇 从福田吃完饭，剩下的十来号人转战到华侨城一粥馆附近的茶餐厅里面，继续。老夏是谁？夏科艺网易资深游戏开发老人，什么才是资深？当面聊才得知这个词的含义，在一家公司呆了十年，在一个行业干了十年，在开发一线干了十年。十年意味着什么，一拨老人去了又回，一拨新人进了又走，铁打的网易流水的兵。听着夏总、后来更亲切的直呼老夏讲述着网易的历史、游戏开发、产品立项、经验分享等等。人与事,欢喜与困惑，变革与坚守，创业与守城，句句都透露出老夏是个深情的人；后来他结合自己在广州搞游戏业界分享会的经验，直接向林校针对老兵群的发展提出建议，这一切都告诉我，老夏是个实诚的人。 其他篇 这一晚，认识了很多人，如搞IDC准备转型的小潘、帮老婆推销旅游业务的信息安全经理李兴彬，帅气的正在搞 iphone 游戏的阿虾、热情的柠檬商街李峰、比老夏还知道网易内幕的老熊，还有友商的文然、家家网购的刘辉等等群友，后来因为换位、转场没有深入聊聊，希望下次有机会切磋。<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>随着玉麟兄的<a href="http://www.laobingqun.com/action.php?ac=show&amp;id=43" target="_blank">振臂一呼</a>，2010年深圳首次老兵群会开始了。今年是老兵群第一次聚会，第一次虽然来的比较晚，却也来的及时。来自深圳各区、甚至广州的老兵们陆续来到缪氏川菜车公庙泰然店，当我6点25来到时，老兵们早已经杀开两桌热谈起来。后来随着 “IT碰碰车三人行” Sunny哥、林校他们陆续驾到，总共有27人参加。三桌开饭，很川、很辣味。下面以人物加流水帐的形式描述这次聚会，人物以与阿石碰面顺序为准，也不完全是，其中点评如有误还望老兵们海涵。</p>
<p><strong>老友篇</strong></p>
<p>banly 哥还是那样深邃，带着一框眼镜，仿佛总能框到一番新天地</p>
<p>林校换了造型，准确的说留了络腮胡，浓密的长长的分布着，和重庆的 GJJ 的有的一比</p>
<p>sunny 哥依然海阔天空，听说是目前私募投资领域业绩最好、成长最快的投资经理。最近深耕游戏领域，投了成都汉森、上海索乐，上来就问我们玩爆过植物大战僵尸没？然后就晒一下战绩，PC 上俩次，iphone 天天玩，说不定投一个联机版的大战僵尸玩玩，豪气！</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xiaoqiushui.com/" target="_blank">秋水大侠</a>更加苗条了，一问得知最近身体不是很好，我估计是思考的多、写的多了，劝她好好休息。她说阿石啊，我刚才差点把你卖了，咋？原来她临时客串了一下“猎头”，帮一家移动商街负责人李同学挖人，HOHO，打住，嘘~</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dengshaowei.com/" target="_blank">少炜</a>最近搞外贸了，SEO  的那个项目听说是暂停了，和 cnbeta 的邹锐海夫妇聊得很来，一问得知也是搞外贸，难怪聊得那么投机，中场换位也没和少炜聊多少，亏！</p>
<p>勇虎依然脱离不了校园产品，也算是对自己的目标一直坚持着，身陷橡果不可自拔。</p>
<p>朱海真是快闪，来的最迟、去的最快，老板加老公的角色确实不好当。</p>
<p><strong>生日篇</strong></p>
<p>吃饭到中途，才听玉麟说今天是岑锋生日，没来得及准备。幸好玉麟另有安排，在花店订了一大捧鲜花正儿八经的献给了岑锋，合影、留念，其他老兵们争相欢呼、拍手称赞，惹得缪氏川菜其他食客们意外又很惊奇的围观这两大男人“演出”的一场好戏。期待拍照的老兵们尽快上传分享，有图有真相。</p>
<p><strong>老夏篇</strong></p>
<p>从福田吃完饭，剩下的十来号人转战到华侨城一粥馆附近的茶餐厅里面，继续。老夏是谁？夏科艺网易资深游戏开发老人，什么才是资深？当面聊才得知这个词的含义，在一家公司呆了十年，在一个行业干了十年，在开发一线干了十年。十年意味着什么，一拨老人去了又回，一拨新人进了又走，铁打的网易流水的兵。听着夏总、后来更亲切的直呼老夏讲述着网易的历史、游戏开发、产品立项、经验分享等等。人与事,欢喜与困惑，变革与坚守，创业与守城，句句都透露出老夏是个深情的人；后来他结合自己在广州搞游戏业界分享会的经验，直接向林校针对老兵群的发展提出建议，这一切都告诉我，老夏是个实诚的人。</p>
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<p>这一晚，认识了很多人，如搞IDC准备转型的小潘、帮老婆推销旅游业务的信息安全经理李兴彬，帅气的正在搞 iphone 游戏的阿虾、热情的柠檬商街李峰、比老夏还知道网易内幕的老熊，还有友商的文然、家家网购的刘辉等等群友，后来因为换位、转场没有深入聊聊，希望下次有机会切磋。</p>
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		<title>i-dong游戏中心原型优化</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[周末参加了J.S.阅微同学组织、泰山在线赞助的华南UE小组-深圳-第九次聚会，席间探讨了导航的讨论，并体验了泰山在线旗下的i-dong在线游戏。为泰山的领导和产品经理热诚及对UE重视所感动，写一篇i-dong的游戏中心原型优化，给大家分享。 先给大家看看i-dong的游戏中心原型，如下图： 为方便分析对原型做了区域标注，如下图： A区: 游戏内容区,包含了分类类目和类下各游戏名称。 B区：游戏玩家区，包含玩家账户、社交 、及系统设置和退出 C区: 游戏状态区，包括硬件设备运行情况、网络状态以及玩家登录情况 问题： 1 很显然A区是原型设计者重点突出的核心区，一是摆明这里游戏丰富，二是希望玩家一上来就可以挑选游戏，迅速进入游戏状态。 但将游戏分类和游戏同区全部展示，以及健身类和益智类游戏循环滚动（无限制的）无疑分化了玩家选择。因为i-dong的手柄感应控制不像电脑的鼠标可以随意、快速选择，这一物理属性就决定了i-dong游戏中心在设计交互时必须平衡如何快速让玩家决策、选定自己玩的游戏而同时保持自己游戏的丰富性。 而玩家在选择具体游戏时，游戏区块会弹出”?”号让人不可捉摸，云天同学也表示了质疑，因为我的选择是明智的，为何还要给个问号质疑我的选择呢？虽然设计者的初衷是考虑问号相当于帮助中心，有啥不明白的点击问号,她会告诉你。 2 B区和C区有同质化倾向、对各自区域功能定位存在逻辑混乱。B区的注销本意是删除账户，但这里的功能实际是退出功能，在文案设计时可考虑用“退出”代替让人感觉更平实。“已登录”很明显是玩家的登录状态，似乎更应该放在B区。同时“已登录”为何采用按钮形式且不可点击切换（如隐身？退出？），更让人感觉困惑,还不如直接去掉。 优化方案： 1 对A区即游戏内容区采用Tab形式，隔开分类类目和类内容，信息可寻性得以加强；同时增大各游戏区块，更醒目，方便玩家识别。 将选中状态的问号去掉，或者用其他icon或“查看详情”等字样代替 2 简化B区，强调用户中心；将“设置”和“退出”剥离出来，并放置C区底部，强调“系统”概念,和左侧“系统”状态保持信息平衡 A区: 游戏内容区,包含了分类类目和类下各游戏名称。 B区：游戏玩家区，包含玩家账户、社交 、及系统设置和退出 C区: 游戏状态区，包括硬件设备运行情况、网络状态以及玩家登录情况 问题： 1 很显然A区是原型设计者重点突出的核心区，一是摆明这里游戏丰富，二是希望玩家一上来就可以挑选游戏，迅速进入游戏状态。但将游戏分类和游戏同区全部展示，以及健身类和益智类游戏循环滚动（无限制的）无疑分化了玩家选择。因为i-dong的手柄感应控制不像电脑的鼠标可以随意、快速选择，这一物理属性就决定了i-dong游戏中心在设计交互时必须平衡如何快速让玩家决策、选定自己玩的游戏而同时保持自己游戏的丰富性。 而玩家在选择具体游戏时，游戏区块会弹出”?”号让人不可捉摸，在场的云天同学也表示了质疑，因为我的选择是明智的，为何还要给个问号质疑我的选择呢？虽然设计者的初衷是考虑问号相当于帮助中心，有啥不明白的点击问号,她会告诉你。 2 B区和C区有同质化倾向、对各自区域功能定位存在逻辑混乱。B区的注销本意是删除账户，但这里的功能实际是退出功能，在文案设计时可考虑用“退出”代替让人感觉更平实。“已登录”很明显是玩家的登录状态，似乎更应该放在B区。同时“已登录”为何采用按钮形式且不可点击切换（如隐身？退出？），更让人感觉困惑,还不如直接去掉。 优化方案： 1 对A区即游戏内容区采用Tab形式，隔开分类类目和类内容，信息可寻性得以加强；同时增大各游戏区块，更醒目，方便玩家识别。将选中状态的问号去掉，或者用其他icon或“查看详情”等字样代替 2 简化B区，强调用户中心；将“设置”和“退出”剥离出来，并放置C区底部，强调“系统”概念,和左侧“系统”状态保持信息平衡 优化效果： 以上是用Axure制作的原型，有兴趣的同学，可以点击这里，查看效果&#8230;.<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" title="i-dong的logo" src="http://www.i-dong.com/user/images/logo.gif" alt="" width="183" height="65" /><br />
周末参加了<a href="http://www.douban.com/people/Wei./" target="_blank">J.S.阅微</a>同学组织、<a href="http://www.toltech.cn/" target="_blank">泰山在线</a>赞助的<a href="http://www.douban.com/event/10943613/" target="_blank">华南UE小组-深圳-第九次聚会</a>，席间探讨了导航的讨论，并体验了泰山在线旗下的<a href="http://www.i-dong.com/">i-dong在线游戏</a>。为泰山的领导和产品经理热诚及对UE重视所感动，写一篇i-dong的游戏中心原型优化，给大家分享。</p>
<p>先给大家看看i-dong的游戏中心原型，如下图：</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-75" title="i-dong-prototype" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/i-dong-prototype.jpg" alt="i-dong-prototype" width="663" height="373" /></p>
<p>为方便分析对原型做了区域标注，如下图：</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79" title="i-dong-prototype-tips" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/i-dong-prototype-tips.jpg" alt="i-dong-prototype-tips" width="665" height="373" /></p>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">A区: 游戏内容区,包含了分类类目和类下各游戏名称。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">B区：游戏玩家区，包含玩家账户、社交 、及系统设置和退出</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">C区: 游戏状态区，包括硬件设备运行情况、网络状态以及玩家登录情况</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">问题：</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">1 很显然A区是原型设计者重点突出的核心区，一是摆明这里游戏丰富，二是希望玩家一上来就可以挑选游戏，迅速进入游戏状态。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">但将游戏分类和游戏同区全部展示，以及健身类和益智类游戏循环滚动（无限制的）无疑分化了玩家选择。因为i-dong的手柄感应控制不像电脑的鼠标可以随意、快速选择，这一物理属性就决定了i-dong游戏中心在设计交互时必须平衡如何快速让玩家决策、选定自己玩的游戏而同时保持自己游戏的丰富性。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">而玩家在选择具体游戏时，游戏区块会弹出”?”号让人不可捉摸，云天同学也表示了质疑，因为我的选择是明智的，为何还要给个问号质疑我的选择呢？虽然设计者的初衷是考虑问号相当于帮助中心，有啥不明白的点击问号,她会告诉你。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">2 B区和C区有同质化倾向、对各自区域功能定位存在逻辑混乱。B区的注销本意是删除账户，但这里的功能实际是退出功能，在文案设计时可考虑用“退出”代替让人感觉更平实。“已登录”很明显是玩家的登录状态，似乎更应该放在B区。同时“已登录”为何采用按钮形式且不可点击切换（如隐身？退出？），更让人感觉困惑,还不如直接去掉。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">优化方案：</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">1 对A区即游戏内容区采用Tab形式，隔开分类类目和类内容，信息可寻性得以加强；同时增大各游戏区块，更醒目，方便玩家识别。</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">将选中状态的问号去掉，或者用其他icon或“查看详情”等字样代替</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 404px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">2 简化B区，强调用户中心；将“设置”和“退出”剥离出来，并放置C区底部，强调“系统”概念,和左侧“系统”状态保持信息平衡</div>
<p>A区: 游戏内容区,包含了分类类目和类下各游戏名称。<br />
B区：游戏玩家区，包含玩家账户、社交 、及系统设置和退出<br />
C区: 游戏状态区，包括硬件设备运行情况、网络状态以及玩家登录情况</p>
<p><strong>问题：</strong></p>
<p>1 很显然A区是原型设计者重点突出的核心区，一是摆明这里游戏丰富，二是希望玩家一上来就可以挑选游戏，迅速进入游戏状态。但将游戏分类和游戏同区全部展示，以及健身类和益智类游戏循环滚动（无限制的）无疑分化了玩家选择。因为i-dong的手柄感应控制不像电脑的鼠标可以随意、快速选择，这一物理属性就决定了i-dong游戏中心在设计交互时必须平衡如何快速让玩家决策、选定自己玩的游戏而同时保持自己游戏的丰富性。</p>
<p>而玩家在选择具体游戏时，游戏区块会弹出”?”号让人不可捉摸，在场的<a href="http://blog.xiaoxiao.com.cn/2009/08/11/the-ninth-ue-party.html" target="_blank">云天同学</a>也表示了质疑，因为我的选择是明智的，为何还要给个问号质疑我的选择呢？虽然设计者的初衷是考虑问号相当于帮助中心，有啥不明白的点击问号,她会告诉你。</p>
<p>2 B区和C区有同质化倾向、对各自区域功能定位存在逻辑混乱。B区的注销本意是删除账户，但这里的功能实际是退出功能，在文案设计时可考虑用“退出”代替让人感觉更平实。“已登录”很明显是玩家的登录状态，似乎更应该放在B区。同时“已登录”为何采用按钮形式且不可点击切换（如隐身？退出？），更让人感觉困惑,还不如直接去掉。</p>
<p><strong>优化方案：</strong></p>
<p>1 对A区即游戏内容区采用Tab形式，隔开分类类目和类内容，信息可寻性得以加强；同时增大各游戏区块，更醒目，方便玩家识别。将选中状态的问号去掉，或者用其他icon或“查看详情”等字样代替</p>
<p>2 简化B区，强调用户中心；将“设置”和“退出”剥离出来，并放置C区底部，强调“系统”概念,和左侧“系统”状态保持信息平衡</p>
<p><strong>优化效果：</strong></p>
<p><strong><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-76" title="i-dong-prototype-optimize" src="http://www.ashnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/i-dong-prototype-optimize.jpg" alt="i-dong-prototype-optimize" width="663" height="373" /></strong></p>
<p>以上是用Axure制作的原型，有兴趣的同学，<strong><a href="http://www.ashnotes.com/experience/i-dong-game-center/" target="_self"><span style="color: #ff0000;">可以点击这里，查看效果&#8230;.</span></a></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">为响应言小瓷同学（@onlyswan）的<a href="http://www.douban.com/group/topic/7592849/" target="_self">号召</a>，今日上午10点半坐上车屁颠屁颠来到深圳推友活动的聚集地：华强北地铁M记。一入M门口就意外发现老相识<a href="http://www.xiaoqiushui.com" target="_self">萧秋水大侠</a>，寒暄之后直叹深圳之大、世界之小。一问她方得知秋水与组织者失去联系，无奈拨通了小瓷同学的电话，暗号“<span style="color: #ff0000;">薛定谔的猫</span>”就联系了彼此，原来她们已经在里处入座。这时，冒出个帅小伙（@mrzenix）接应了我们，就这样，我和秋水认识了言小瓷，第一感觉这丫头真高！</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">不一会儿，大明星奶瓶小朋友（@NetPuter）众望所归式的驾到，引起了热潮，这时不经意发现推友也有10来号人，小小的M记已经没地方方便我们推友的聊天。没办法，在“双胞胎”之一张扬的带领下，一帮推友磕磕碰碰的来到振华路的一家湖南饭馆——湘攸大碗菜。大家入定之后，初时歇息的无语停顿让大家稍微尴尬，不时各自拿着爱机现场热推，这时秋水和张扬的关于资历和老底的PK调足了大家的口味，各自也随意聊开去。</p>
<p>一聊才发现，自己周边都是90后，各自都有非凡的经历！ 言小瓷同学（@onlyswan）根在沈阳、长在深圳、求学上海，听说去年在豆瓣遇到了自己的如意郎君；椰子同学（@yeasiz）生在温州、发育深圳、马上就要留学澳洲；姚姚（@yoyoyao）同学西藏、新疆埃及到处跑，户外旅行的爱好者，差点爆了王石的菊花&#8230;听着吹着，也了解了她们这一代的学校生活、未来诉求：有广阔的视野、关注新技术、敢于发表自己的见解。</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">饭后，张扬愤青（@digitalboy）用熨斗给我们演示“行为艺术”了一把，这一段的详情描述可以看<span style="color: #ff0000;"><a title="2009年的第一次推聚：推吧推吧不是罪" href="http://www.xiaoqiushui.com/?p=349" target="_self"><span style="color: #ff0000;">萧秋水的博客</span></a></span>，：）、聚会的PP可以在<span style="color: #ff0000;"><a href="http://twitpic.com/photos/digitalboy" target="_self"><span style="color: #ff0000;">这里查看</span></a><span style="color: #ff0000;">、</span><a href="http://twitpic.com/photos/yoyoyao"><span style="color: #ff0000;">查看地址2</span></a><span style="color: #ff0000;">。</span></span></p>
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